Comments on: Hear Your Own Script http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/ Insider screenwriting stories, plus occasional stuff on how to write a screenplay, by Phil Gladwin Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:28:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: vegasroberts http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-5259 vegasroberts Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:57:41 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-5259 Already being done by iScript.com Already being done by iScript.com

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By: Philip http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-4287 Philip Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:55:02 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-4287 Sure - go for it. Phil Sure - go for it.

Phil

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By: nono1990 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-4286 nono1990 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:52:20 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-4286 I'm from south africa in cape town the script I wrote takes place in Cape town in Gugulethu.can i share my story with you? I’m from south africa in cape town the script I wrote takes place in Cape town in Gugulethu.can i share my story with you?

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By: Deirdre http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-997 Deirdre Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:29:29 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-997 Interesting idea about the visuals not being well-served by a reading. I've only ever had readings for theatre pieces. And for dialogue especially they are really useful. Of course beware of a poor reading, I had one instance, after the reading I just kept cutting one of the character's lines, till I realized it was his interpretation that was making me cringe. When he dropped out it all worked again. Likewise an actor who can make a phone book sound good. In some ways one of the best first steps, well it's requisite really, is to read the whole thing yourself, out loud. Hopefully you'll hear the blah blah blahs right off the bat. And yes, readings are a step, the next one is rehearsal or shooting, the final i guess is when the audience arrives. Then you really hear it for the first time. Interesting idea about the visuals not being well-served by a reading.
I’ve only ever had readings for theatre pieces. And for dialogue especially they are really useful. Of course beware of a poor reading, I had one instance, after the reading I just kept cutting one of the character’s lines, till I realized it was his interpretation that was making me cringe. When he dropped out it all worked again.

Likewise an actor who can make a phone book sound good.

In some ways one of the best first steps, well it’s requisite really, is to read the whole thing yourself, out loud.

Hopefully you’ll hear the blah blah blahs right off the bat.

And yes, readings are a step, the next one is rehearsal or shooting, the final i guess is when the audience arrives. Then you really hear it for the first time.

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By: Amz http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-987 Amz Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:02:11 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-987 Hey, I thought I'd share this with you all. I went to a screenplay reading today at a local cafe. Most of us readers were actors, and the writer said she found it really helpful because she had started to feel lost in her own script and the different character voices. I think she's done about three readings so far, including one directed by an industry professional, and they've generally led to constructive discussions and re-writes. However, I did think there was a limit to what acted readings can illuminate. Today I found myself wondering whether there were enough visuals in the script, and if there might be too much dialogue. I'm not sure if the writer found the same thing, but it makes me think that reading would be good for things like characterisation, dialogue, plots etc. But maybe people who can't afford the professional service Philip was talking about could consider finding a local cafe that would be willing to host a play reading, then doing a bit of advertising for actors? Hope this helps! Hey, I thought I’d share this with you all. I went to a screenplay reading today at a local cafe. Most of us readers were actors, and the writer said she found it really helpful because she had started to feel lost in her own script and the different character voices. I think she’s done about three readings so far, including one directed by an industry professional, and they’ve generally led to constructive discussions and re-writes.

However, I did think there was a limit to what acted readings can illuminate. Today I found myself wondering whether there were enough visuals in the script, and if there might be too much dialogue. I’m not sure if the writer found the same thing, but it makes me think that reading would be good for things like characterisation, dialogue, plots etc.

But maybe people who can’t afford the professional service Philip was talking about could consider finding a local cafe that would be willing to host a play reading, then doing a bit of advertising for actors? Hope this helps!

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By: Minshu http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-667 Minshu Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:44:48 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-667 If you can afford it, enjoy it! If you can't, say congratulations to those who can! If you can afford it, enjoy it!
If you can’t, say congratulations to those who can!

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By: Raymond http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-540 Raymond Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:57:43 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-540 That's a pretty smart idea because sometimes the dialogue in your screenplay can sound very fake even though it may sound alright in your head. If it were read out loud by people who have no idea how you want it to be read, it may also show you the dialogue isn't going how you want it to go and it'll let you make a rewrite that could give you a better screenplay. That’s a pretty smart idea because sometimes the dialogue in your screenplay can sound very fake even though it may sound alright in your head. If it were read out loud by people who have no idea how you want it to be read, it may also show you the dialogue isn’t going how you want it to go and it’ll let you make a rewrite that could give you a better screenplay.

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By: Philip http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-519 Philip Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:42:02 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-519 Those electronic voices are ridiculous, aren't they? I never got much further than a scene or two read in this way - was surprised that voice synths hadn't got any better in last 20 years. OK - I'm researching voice over studios at the moment. Those electronic voices are ridiculous, aren’t they? I never got much further than a scene or two read in this way - was surprised that voice synths hadn’t got any better in last 20 years. OK - I’m researching voice over studios at the moment.

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By: MLewys http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-497 MLewys Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:45:44 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-497 <i>As an American, I wouldn’t find it to be a bad thing to listen to English voices read my script should I take advantage of this option…it would be interesting actually. It would give me a whole new feel to my script, I think.</i> I wouldn't mind a bit. I would be grateful for being able to hear someone else say my words. Plus, like you said, it would provide an interesting feel to have an accent other than what I hear in my head. As an American, I wouldn’t find it to be a bad thing to listen to English voices read my script should I take advantage of this option…it would be interesting actually. It would give me a whole new feel to my script, I think.

I wouldn’t mind a bit. I would be grateful for being able to hear someone else say my words. Plus, like you said, it would provide an interesting feel to have an accent other than what I hear in my head.

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By: Charles http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-491 Charles Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:47:31 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-491 Philip, I think this sounds like a great idea, though I'm afraid it might turn out to be too expensive to be practical. But I'd definitely interested in finding out more. Some scriptwriting programs include a function to read scripts aloud, but it sucked when I tried it. For one thing, it typically includes one electronic male voice, and one electronic female voice. And then, they read every word on the page -- scene headings, action description, parentheticals -- when I want to just hear the dialog. You may not need to get a lot of actors for this. Jim Dale, for example, does dozens of distinct and recognizable voices when he reads the audio versions of the Harry Potter books. Four or five good voice actors might be able to voice the entire cast of a script. Not that it would necessarily be any cheaper that way, though. Philip, I think this sounds like a great idea, though I’m afraid it might turn out to be too expensive to be practical. But I’d definitely interested in finding out more.

Some scriptwriting programs include a function to read scripts aloud, but it sucked when I tried it. For one thing, it typically includes one electronic male voice, and one electronic female voice.

And then, they read every word on the page — scene headings, action description, parentheticals — when I want to just hear the dialog.

You may not need to get a lot of actors for this. Jim Dale, for example, does dozens of distinct and recognizable voices when he reads the audio versions of the Harry Potter books. Four or five good voice actors might be able to voice the entire cast of a script. Not that it would necessarily be any cheaper that way, though.

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By: Philip http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-487 Philip Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:57:06 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-487 OK, I mean, we do have yanks over here, and I'm sure I can find some with good experience who are currently resting. Pretty well all shapes and sizes can be achieved with enough warning. And doubling up casts is going to be crucial to keep the costs from spiralling. I'm liking the idea of these recordings being online at the end to act as a calling card for you - are there any other spins you'd really like from the service? In what ways would this service be useful to you? OK, I mean, we do have yanks over here, and I’m sure I can find some with good experience who are currently resting. Pretty well all shapes and sizes can be achieved with enough warning.

And doubling up casts is going to be crucial to keep the costs from spiralling.

I’m liking the idea of these recordings being online at the end to act as a calling card for you - are there any other spins you’d really like from the service?

In what ways would this service be useful to you?

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By: Rose http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-473 Rose Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:36:49 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-473 My goodness Phillip... this is a wonderful idea. Tell me, these pro actors...how young do they come? My protagonist is seventeen ("almost 18" she's clear to remind you.) Will there be actors available to handle that? She is something else...I'm here to tell you. Rose My goodness Phillip…

this is a wonderful idea. Tell me, these pro
actors…how young do they come?

My protagonist is seventeen (”almost 18″ she’s clear to remind you.) Will there be actors available to handle that? She is something else…I’m here to tell you.

Rose

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By: deirdre http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-466 deirdre Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:35:37 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-466 I'm from Canada but the script I'm working on takes place in England, so perfect, except for the one American character which must sound American. Don't you have any yanks over there? What about large cast sizes and doubling and stuff like that to keep 'production' costs down? All do-able I presume. I’m from Canada but the script I’m working on takes place in England, so perfect, except for the one American character which must sound American. Don’t you have any yanks over there?

What about large cast sizes and doubling and stuff like that to keep ‘production’ costs down? All do-able I presume.

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By: Tonja http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-462 Tonja Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:37:04 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-462 Phil: Oh, trust me, I'm aware a lot worse can happen...that it does get much worse. I guess I do admit that I have a bit of thin skin when it comes to criticism and the only way to really learn is the hard way. To just take it. Honestly, I've gotten great constructive criticism for my writing over the years in classes/workshops and it's really helped. I've gotten a lot of positive responses as well. As I've said above, I'm actually my own worst critic and the reason I have a hard to time sitting at my desk at times is...me. I'm a bit of a perfectionist, which is bad, really. It's the main cause of my "writer's block"...that I won't just sit my butt down and write without "Little Miss Perfect" nagging me in my ear. To answer your next question: As an American, I wouldn't find it to be a bad thing to listen to English voices read my script should I take advantage of this option...it would be interesting actually. It would give me a whole new feel to my script, I think. Phil: Oh, trust me, I’m aware a lot worse can happen…that it does get much worse. I guess I do admit that I have a bit of thin skin when it comes to criticism and the only way to really learn is the hard way. To just take it.

Honestly, I’ve gotten great constructive criticism for my writing over the years in classes/workshops and it’s really helped. I’ve gotten a lot of positive responses as well. As I’ve said above, I’m actually my own worst critic and the reason I have a hard to time sitting at my desk at times is…me. I’m a bit of a perfectionist, which is bad, really. It’s the main cause of my “writer’s block”…that I won’t just sit my butt down and write without “Little Miss Perfect” nagging me in my ear.

To answer your next question: As an American, I wouldn’t find it to be a bad thing to listen to English voices read my script should I take advantage of this option…it would be interesting actually. It would give me a whole new feel to my script, I think.

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By: Philip http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-455 Philip Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:46:16 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-455 Tonja - You're going to have to lose that thin skin! A lot worse will happen to you in this industry than being mocked :-) MLewys - I think getting non pro actors would be clearly cheaper, but slightly defeats the point of the thing - after all, it wouldn't be too hard to get your friends round in front of a mic. I guess I'm really talking about a premium offering with pro standard acting. That's what makes it distinct. Or am I wrong? One thing - how would you people outside the UK feel about your scripts being read by English voices (rather than American English). That's not going to be great is it? Or doesn't it matter? I'm sure I can source American accents though anything else might be more of a problem! Very interesting idea from Iceduck about making the recordings available for others to listen to. Kind of an online portfolio you could point to when you were marketing your script. Also acts as a kind of copyright marker too - if it's up here first with your name on then it's harder for people to steal from you. (Though that will wreak havoc with me bandwidth, so there would have to be a small additional charge for that I guess.) Amz - absolutely - there's nothing like hearing a good actor battle your dialogue to make you realise you need to rewrite! Hmm. All part of the mix. Any more thoughts? Tonja - You’re going to have to lose that thin skin! A lot worse will happen to you in this industry than being mocked :-)

MLewys - I think getting non pro actors would be clearly cheaper, but slightly defeats the point of the thing - after all, it wouldn’t be too hard to get your friends round in front of a mic. I guess I’m really talking about a premium offering with pro standard acting. That’s what makes it distinct. Or am I wrong?

One thing - how would you people outside the UK feel about your scripts being read by English voices (rather than American English). That’s not going to be great is it? Or doesn’t it matter? I’m sure I can source American accents though anything else might be more of a problem!

Very interesting idea from Iceduck about making the recordings available for others to listen to. Kind of an online portfolio you could point to when you were marketing your script. Also acts as a kind of copyright marker too - if it’s up here first with your name on then it’s harder for people to steal from you. (Though that will wreak havoc with me bandwidth, so there would have to be a small additional charge for that I guess.)

Amz - absolutely - there’s nothing like hearing a good actor battle your dialogue to make you realise you need to rewrite!

Hmm. All part of the mix. Any more thoughts?

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By: Philip http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-453 Philip Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:40:34 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-453 One thing - how would you Americans feel about your scripts being read by English voices (rather than American English). That's not going to be great is it? Or doesn't it matter? I'm sure I can source American accents if it's a problem. Very interesting idea from Iceduck about making the recordings available for others to listen to. Kind of an online portfolio you could point to when you were marketing your script. Also acts as a kind of copyright marker too - if it's up here first with your name on then it's harder for people to steal from you. Though that will wreak havoc with me bandwidth, so there would have to be a small additional charge for that I guess. Hmm. All part of the mix. Any more thoughts? One thing - how would you Americans feel about your scripts being read by English voices (rather than American English). That’s not going to be great is it? Or doesn’t it matter? I’m sure I can source American accents if it’s a problem.

Very interesting idea from Iceduck about making the recordings available for others to listen to. Kind of an online portfolio you could point to when you were marketing your script. Also acts as a kind of copyright marker too - if it’s up here first with your name on then it’s harder for people to steal from you. Though that will wreak havoc with me bandwidth, so there would have to be a small additional charge for that I guess. Hmm. All part of the mix. Any more thoughts?

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By: Amz http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-435 Amz Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:27:06 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-435 Excellent idea Philip! I remember when I had a radio play read by some actors and it came to life. At that stage there had been a few things I knew were wrong with the script, but I couldn't figure out exactly what they were. Hearing it read out clarified what needed to be improved and help me think up ways to refine the script. Also, from an actors perspective it's helpful to be involved in that kind of thing because you gain some more understanding about how scripts work. I'm always going along to local script readings for that reason. Excellent idea Philip! I remember when I had a radio play read by some actors and it came to life. At that stage there had been a few things I knew were wrong with the script, but I couldn’t figure out exactly what they were. Hearing it read out clarified what needed to be improved and help me think up ways to refine the script.

Also, from an actors perspective it’s helpful to be involved in that kind of thing because you gain some more understanding about how scripts work. I’m always going along to local script readings for that reason.

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By: Iceduck http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-432 Iceduck Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:43:41 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-432 Frankly, this sounds like one of the most exciting ideas ever. I'm still very much at the dabbling stage of screenwriting, and the idea of getting a piece of work recorded by proper actors - even if only for a portfolio - is incredibly enticing. So, yes, the idea certainly gets my vote. Thought, though - would these be made available to all visitors? Maybe as an opt-in option? It could be great for other writers, and also for the paying writer if they want their material heard by others also. So, in summary, I think the idea has a lot of potential - useful primarily for hearing the dialogue presented by actors, of course, but offering so much more as well. Frankly, this sounds like one of the most exciting ideas ever. I’m still very much at the dabbling stage of screenwriting, and the idea of getting a piece of work recorded by proper actors - even if only for a portfolio - is incredibly enticing.

So, yes, the idea certainly gets my vote. Thought, though - would these be made available to all visitors? Maybe as an opt-in option? It could be great for other writers, and also for the paying writer if they want their material heard by others also.

So, in summary, I think the idea has a lot of potential - useful primarily for hearing the dialogue presented by actors, of course, but offering so much more as well.

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By: Mlewys http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-426 Mlewys Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:18:43 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-426 I wonder if you could find actors looking to build a resume or something that might pro bono a reading or two. I don't know. I only know one actor and she's a friend. She's getting started and probably would be happy to do it. But it's a great idea! I wonder if you could find actors looking to build a resume or something that might pro bono a reading or two. I don’t know. I only know one actor and she’s a friend. She’s getting started and probably would be happy to do it.

But it’s a great idea!

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By: Tonja http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-423 Tonja Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:10:59 +0000 http://www.screenwritinggoldmine.com/blog/hear-your-own-script/2007/10/24/#comment-423 That does sound very appealing and would probably do it should the money come along. No matter if you know for sure how many people could pay for it, it wouldn't hurt to offer it, of course. Until that opportunity to pay the fee comes up, I'll stick to playing out my own scripts, no matter how crazy I look. ;) Also, one might take into consideration the number of writers (pretty much all of them) who hate criticism of their work (especially a work they've put a lot of time/effort into). I just had this bad visualization of the actors making fun of a certain line while recording and it ends up on the tape and me crying my eyes out when I finally get to listen to it... Then again, I'm my own worst critic. That does sound very appealing and would probably do it should the money come along. No matter if you know for sure how many people could pay for it, it wouldn’t hurt to offer it, of course.

Until that opportunity to pay the fee comes up, I’ll stick to playing out my own scripts, no matter how crazy I look. ;)

Also, one might take into consideration the number of writers (pretty much all of them) who hate criticism of their work (especially a work they’ve put a lot of time/effort into). I just had this bad visualization of the actors making fun of a certain line while recording and it ends up on the tape and me crying my eyes out when I finally get to listen to it…

Then again, I’m my own worst critic.

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